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Post by willtheplasticman on Oct 13, 2005 21:53:34 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about this (like most people).
I think it's important to actually physically pursue music and have a relationship with current bands, but stuff that's 20-30 years old that I can only get on overly-expensive bootlegs (like so much great, obscure '77 punk and thrash), I don't see the point in buying a boot rather than just downloading the crap. It's all online and easily available. I'm not talking about stuff that's been reissued... I don't feel like buying bootlegs... What's the difference between downloading something and buying a bootleg with a fake cover? Having it on vinyl?
I easily can see this getting 0 replies. I just wanted to see peoples' thoughts on this because it's such a HOT(t) subject with the kids.
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Post by greg on Oct 13, 2005 22:43:58 GMT -5
i think most bands would prefer people download it if its way out of print instead of paying ridiculous prices for what could just be a boot. but then a lot of bands have been releasing discography CDs lately also. i've really got nothing against downloading, because for most people they only have so much money they can spend on music. and i don't think just because you can't afford to buy it you shouldn't be allowed to hear it. just my two cents.
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Post by willtheplasticman on Oct 13, 2005 22:50:32 GMT -5
Yeah, it seems like a lot of people can't see an inbetween. They either download everything they listen to or have to buy it. I don't like the idea of "collecting," I think it's consumerism gone rampant, but people that only download stuff... I don't understand how they can stand it, either. It seems to limit their taste because they only hear what they're looking for and never experiment, because when you're just clicking songs off a list, you aren't going to generally be thinking of branching out at all.
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Post by matt judge on Oct 13, 2005 23:34:57 GMT -5
musicians have to eat food and have gas money and i will download from people from whom downloading does not seriously jeopardize their ability to do that.
but touring or professional indie label / self-released stuff, i don't think it's OK to download. when they're right on that brink of maybe not being able to make it. at least not whole albums, definitely not in lieu of buying them. i know that people who want to politically justify downloading will argue that it represents freedom from commodification or whatever, but i think downloading can't be considered a progressive act when it's helping force someone who was independent to end up back in the service industry, working for the man.
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Post by justin anxiety on Oct 14, 2005 0:09:54 GMT -5
boots vs. downloads:
i think it depends. if it's an affordable boot about the price of buying a new record and its decent quality etc then i'll go for the boot.
actually most of the time i would go for a boot over a download becasue i just don't spend that much time on the computer to find downloads worth taking the time to copy and burn so i don't have to just listen to it on my computer.
i do agree with matt on the download thing about people who will download an entire album that just came out. but if it's a band that's broken up and their stuff is all out of print i'd say download everything you can.
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Post by thousandaire on Oct 14, 2005 20:08:27 GMT -5
i buy about 5 records a year and download prob 50 or so. several reasons in no particularly order. first, i dont have money for 50 recrods. second, CDs are dead, i lose and scratch them. having mp3s helps me stay clean an organized, not to mention i can listen to them wherever i want very easily. next, i think music is something that is truly intangible, and the process of poeple holding their music in their hands is only something that has come about in the past 100 years, whereas for thousands of years before that it existed in space and their ears. not to say its not fun to slip a 7" out of its sleeve, but its not necessary fpr me to truly enjoy it. as for taking money out of pockets i can understand that to some degree, but there are MANY bands i have supported on tour and promoted on my blog that i woudlve never gotten into otherswise (hold steady, clap your hands, crooked fingers, hockey night, wolf parade, and wilderness come to mind first). i also think that bands making their money on the road and through merch can prove to be a greater revenue stream, and developing a huge fan base through free music downloads might be a way to do that. i also have my music up for free on my p2p.
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